[ScoJo]

[Mateo Sanboval]

[static14]

$50. Yikes, that one hurt a bit.

[NathanLurker]

It's a similar price to IT but I wish I still had the subber discount :/. I went for it anyway and combined BLACKKKLANSMAN to my order.

[inksb]

It's a similar price to IT but I wish I still had the subber discount :/. I went for it anyway and combined BLACKKKLANSMAN to my order.

@nathan what is shipping from the US to CA for you? I just ordered a single LP from CA and it ran me $15, it seemed higher than I remember the last time I ordered one but I could just have a fuzzy memory. It's the same price as ordering from the UK.

I fully expected Crusing to be $55 plus shipping so happy to see it a little cheaper. I want it but I spent too much this week so it goes on the "to buy eventually" list.

[NathanLurker]

Shipping through DHL ran me at 17$ + russian roulette on customs. So its not too bad as a combined shipping.

[DigitalHiss]

Never saw, heard, Cruising. Intrigued by the release though* - where is the Jack Nitzsche tracks? I don't see anything of him in the tracklisting.

*Trying to cut back on buying vinyl...unless absolutely necessary!

[static14]

Never saw, heard, Cruising. Intrigued by the release though* - where is the Jack Nitzsche tracks? I don't see anything of him in the tracklisting.

*Trying to cut back on buying vinyl...unless absolutely necessary!

Nitzsche was the music director/ editor / producer. His work is on sides C & D

[ScoJo]

Not sure I agree with your police work, sorry Chris ;)


Nitzsche wrote and produced tracks with Willy DeVille and Germs. The Barre Phillips tracks are pulled from his own ECM album Three Day Moon- and the other tracks on Sides C and D by Towner and Gismonti were also taken from existing ECM LPs...no involvement by Nitzsche there.

As for specific JN underscore in the movie... I'm still pretty convinced that he contributed some music himself. I have a 'suite' of incidental cues taken from the dvd and that stuff sure sounds like Nitzsche- the wine glasses give it away!
So as psyched as I am for this bulging package (!), I'm a bit bummed that there's no JN score as part of it. Though it's possible that, when I get a chance to hear the release, those bits that I mentally ascribe to Nitzsche are actually by a different artist. Guess I'll find out soon enough!

Here's an interesting wrinkle to this tale however- I was about to put link here to a youtube vid made by someone that compiles 5mins of underscore from the movie, so you could listen and see what you think. It's been up there for years and years... but today it's suddenly 'unavailable'. (And yet, in the same Cruising OST playlists, none of the songs from the soundtrack have been taken down.) Very odd.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aaCPuYaDg ... z46Q110ELk

[static14]

I stand corrected. :) I heard years back that his gig on Cruising was basically assembly, but I guess that was wrong.

Odd that Nitzsche isn’t credited on the sleeve, when WW specifically states complete score. This might be another sad case of “complete” from WW .

[static14]

UPDATE

[ScoJo]

No worries boss - sorry for being a fact-checking nerd but I've been obsessed with unreleased Nitzsche music for years - he's definitely one of my main men in the field :)

[ScoJo]

Ooh and thanks for the above - looking forward to further elucidation from the source!

[ScoJo]

This release is so confusing.

From a promo article on exclaim.ca:

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Fantastic news - except that, from looking at the tracklisting, patently not true?

I'm just hoping that the sleeve notes somehow explain all this- did JN write some underscore for the movie, or didn't he??

It's also quite interesting and head-scratching that a video on Youtube which has been up there for years, a home rip from DVD of selections of the film's instrumental score (which really sounds like JN's work) was taken down on the day that the WW set was released....

[Mateo Sanboval]

It's also bananas that, even when choosing to respond to a direct query such as the exchange Static posted earlier, they still obfuscate on the matter.

[ScoJo]

Right.... I'm going in:

- Shall listen to the four instrumental source tracks by Barre Philips, Ralph Towner and Egberto Gismonti which comprise most of Sides C & D of the WW release.

- Re-listen to the previously mentioned home rip of underscore selections from the film.

- Watch the Making of Cruising 50min doc that's from the blu ray.

- Following that, a re-watch of the movie.

(As an aside, one thing that's an OCD irritation right off the bat is how WW state that it's the 'Complete Soundtrack and Score' from the film - with 'soundtrack' generally used to describe songs found in the movie, whilst 'score' identifies musical underscore composed specifically. The latter of which this release appears to feature none of. ??

(As a further aside...just previewing my Cruising disc for a few seconds, and right from the git go as the opening title crawls across the screen... I am 100% hearing a Jack Nitzsche composition right there. I would stake my left baby-maker upon this! So, should be an interesting rewatch then ;)

[ScoJo]

Okay, straight away I think I'm getting somewhere...

First of all, I can't find any reference online to tracks by Philips of Gismonti that are named 'Movement'. More on this to follow!

So, listening to the Ralph Towner track Waterwheel, two things are clear: this music appears in the film (and is one of the 'underscore' cues highlighted in the home-rip audio from the film) but it's different - it has other sounds mixed in with it, including wine glasses. I am starting to realise what Nitzsche's contribution to the film's underscore may have been - he added sounds and 'remixed' those original ECM tracks by Philips, Towner and Gismonti to create the film's underscore!

And the two tracks both titled 'Movement' may well be existing tracks by Philips/Gismonti which have been re-titled for the Cruising release, because they feature Nitzsche's contribution... or possibly even entirely new tracks cowritten with JN just for the movie.

With all this in mind - I'm popping a blue spotted handkerchief in my left-side back pocket and heading on into the RamRod bar....

[ScoJo]

Nitzsche was the music director/ editor / producer. His work is on sides C & D
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@Static - based on my above detective work, it seems that this may well be sorta true after all... :) I hastily assumed that all those were existing tracks from ECM releases but I'm continuing with my detective work to unravel that aspect- see above!

[Bezulsqy]

It's a similar price to IT but I wish I still had the subber discount :/. I went for it anyway and combined BLACKKKLANSMAN to my order.

I did exactly the same. Looking forward to these.

@ScoJo
Thanks for all the hard work you are putting into this :-)

Also, I still have not seen Cruising. But I believe Arrow is going to release a blu ray this year. I'll wait for that one as my first watch.

[static14]

Rare photo of @Scojo in repose

[ScoJo]

I'm still patiently awaiting my 'Mad-Hound-of-the-Moors' award nomination....

;-)

[ScoJo]

I got about halfway through Cruising before my gf awoke, saw me watching heaving, sweating male butts all over the show, looked at me with patented 'What now??' insouicance, and I was embarassed into rain-checking the 2nd half.

So far, I can report that the film is BAD ASS (in every way) and Ive heard enough evidence from both Friedkin's comments in the doc and what Ive heard in the film to stand by all my above conjecturing.

I mean, Friedkin flat out states that Nitzsche 'wrote score for the movie', contributing textural pieces as he did for The Exorcist, using 'non traditional things like wine glasses'...

I really hope that these pieces are represented in some form in WW's 'complete soundtrack and score'.

[Bezulsqy]

Transmission has copies of Cruising for sale for those in the UK/Europe that want to be sure there are no custom charges:
£46.99

http://transmissionrecords.co.uk/shop/c ... n-picture/

[havershaw]

New Re-Animator arrived today, and compared to the original Waxwork pressing, it is...louder, I guess? Quite a bit louder, actually. Maybe it has a tiny bit more low end. I don’t have a VS one to compare, but I sure wish I did. I thought the OG waxwork press was kind of overly dark (especially on drums) and I was hoping this one would sound more open.
I don’t think it sounds terrible, but I sure am on the hunt for a VS one to compare now.

[ScoJo]

Looks like we have a new candidate for Comparison Corner!

I'll endeavour to put the film, VS and 1st WW up against each other anon.