[antimax]

@Ronwell - What are you criticizing Waxwork for? The fact that they couldn't predict the heavy amount of traffic their site got yesterday? In that case, I blame the technology not the human. I'm pissed I missed the variant too, but there's no need to blame Waxwork for that, just blame the high-demand (if that's even possible, ha).

[slik]

Not long back I was laughing at the crazies fighting over TVs,whatever material nonsense in Wallmart on Black Friday....now? I'm seeing the same social meltdown over a record. Looking forward to whatever drops through my letterbox....colour irrelevant. Waxwork, I guess I'm one happy sap! Keep on keeping on, love your records.

[thedeepness]

I don't really feel like I got screwed yesterday. Maybe I would have got it if it dropped yesterday, maybe not. Am I bummed I missed the variant? Hell yes, it sounds super cool and I wasted a bunch of time trying to get it but that is part of the game. I don't really feel like WW craped on us though. I think they tried to make it as fair as possible. Again I come back to this is why I like the concept of the subscription, even with the extra cost associated with it.

[Ronwell]

Yup, forgive my insolence to the almighty WAXWORK. I knew there would be a huge amount of traffic for this. Didn't you? Wouldn't you have been prepared? I know I would have. I went through this with Deathwaltz back in June for starters (5 months ago). At least they were up front with their customers as to who got what. As a business owner, I would have even tried to contact Deathwaltz and ask them for some insight. So yes, I blame them for not predicting this. It was not very difficult to predict. They blew it, a lot of people are now pissed and there's always going to be fanboys defending their poor decisions. My reaction isn't irrational or out of line, it's quite normal. I wasted a lot of time yesterday and got nothing for it. I'm not OK with that.

[siforster]

I don't really see who got screwed and how, except by a US postage system that dares to class places outside the US as "International". Sending records by post is a pricey business, something that gets forgotten in an age used to either receiving little packages of CDs or for nothing down a wire. Sending records in a way so that they don't get knackered in transit is even more expensive.
And when economies of scale are against you (ie, the more items you sell, the less your profit margins need to be to make an acceptable profit), it's a shit. Startup companies selling vinyl have to price their wares so that they can sell more records and eat, sometimes at the same time if they're really lucky. Sometimes things go a bit screwy, and we can either gnash away on our keyboards or we can just carry on as if hanging on for another 24 hours to buy a record doesn't really matter to us - because it really doesn't.

I wouldn't say that any of us here are saps; far from it, we are fans and on a board such as this where the people who make the things are fairly close at hand to the people who buy them, it makes for a better place all round when we're all on the same side. Because frankly, if it all becomes too much of a faff for those guys to be making records because us guys are too busy banging on as if they owe us a favour, nobody wins. And "nobody winning on the internet" is too great a catastrophe for me to contemplate at this stage of the evening's Baileys.

[slik]

Subs would be the best way, as basically you're paying up front for a release, ensuring the label can budget it's projects I'd assume. As a benefit I'd hope the limited variant would go to the subscribers....still, wouldn't keep everyone happy I'll bet!

[RyanPlugs]

Fucking paypal froze so I had to re enter my details and ended up with order 2910. If I missed out on this I'm gonna be pissed.

[artifice]

Sending records by post is a pricey business, but $25 is extreme. It's maybe half that from almost anywhere I've ever ordered from.

[slik]

Good man, too many naysayers, so much negativity, end of the day, people prepared to put out amazing record releases need support! Try picking up every colourway of Hot Water Music LPs...then try moaning!

[antimax]

On a side note, I am stoked to receive and spin any version of this LP! Ordered an older release of it off ebay earlier this year and it arrived shattered… One of my favorite films, one of my favorite soundtracks, can't wait to spin it!

[siforster]

$25 US to UK (which is what I got charged) seems about standard to me, and is cheaper than the other way around (£18+). The only people I deal with who charge less are Sub Pop ($18 for an LP), and they've been the market leaders for so long at this sort of thing that they can afford to do this.

[Hardrain02]

@si good to know about the low Sub-Pop shipping charges to the uk. Especially with the new Mogwai record dropping soon.

@antimax I too cant wait to get this playing regardless of the colour its on. Although to be honest all 3 colours sound like they will be cool looking.

[chandler75]

I don't know what Waxwork could have done much differently. But I bet they're also going "What the fuck just happened...?"

Even though I'm bummed about (probably) not getting this, I hope I might be able to track it down at some point, somehow, and I kinda hope Waxwork don't make any extra copies (like they did with the limited DOTD) just to "satisfy" the fans. Let this be a limited gem.

[fanboy]

I agree @Rasmus, keep it to the 200 they originally said it would be.

[brentonwalter]

I picked up the rosemary preorder today. Had to do it o my phone though and ended up at around order #2300 here's to hoping for the haze variant!

[4000days]

As someone who ran an indie record store for 10 years, I would say that anywhere around $20 is fair for shipping an LP to anywhere other than Canada from the US. Actual postage rates are generally in the neighborhood of $18. Mailers aren't free though, and once you factor in other associated fees (do you know how much decent packing tape costs? - even in bulk it can be expensive - and cardboard inserts? ridiculously pricey!), I usually round up to $20. And I've certainly lost money shipping them that cheap in the past.

[RyanPlugs]

I'm probably gonna cancel my order now knowing I didn't get in on the variant. By the time uk Customs chuck a £13 charge on top (which is almost a guarantee these days) I'm looking at £40+ Ina. Record I'll be able to order from a local store for half the price.

[Ronwell]

I'm doing the same @RyanPlugs. The more I think about this the more disappointed I am in Waxwork at how they are treating people.
Order the record and hope you got one but order it from us. We won't tell you if you got one but it at least you bought one from us and not the local indy record store who struggles day to day. Not very cool at all. They are an American company so it's not that surprising. Deathwaltz just had a link for the limited Fog. If you missed out you missed out. No stringing people along. That's the way to treat people. Not like Waxwork's casino method.

[unpopular_poet]

I always knew this was America's fault. We take the land, we take the oil, we take the Waxwork limited variants.

[RyanPlugs]

Here's where I'll have to disagree with you. I think Waxwork are doing the best they can with this. I don't think any of us or them expected it to be this manic. I'll admit, I thought considering they're quite a new label, that as long as I got one early, I'd get in on the variant (which I wanted purely for the novelty of the double sided colour, and see how they pulled it off).

After the dust has settled and I realise I've ordered one of the standard editions, buyers remorse has set in, and I realised that this is not a record I really wanted to pay £40 for, when I know I'll be able to order it locally for about half that when it gets a general release in Jan.

I've sent them a polite email requesting the order be cancelled. If they can do it I'd be extremely grateful (because let's face it, this is my fault) but if they can't, it's not the end of the world.

[Deadite]

Grrr. i was refreshing the 'releases' page and not the 'shop' page when it dropped.

[antimax]

@unpopular - hahaha

@Ronwell - Just gonna say, you sound like a major dick. More so than any other person or company on this forum.

[maxvelvet]

Guys...we're nearly 700 (!) in this forum...it is clear that "you can't always get what you want" Waxwork rules, there's love in their releases and everybody needs love, simply! Like many other die-hard friends here I missed the first copies but hey, I will get ANYWAY a COOL vinyl of a GREAT soundtrack, so be happy, peace & love!

[Ronwell]

How can they not cancel your order? They're not shipping until the end of January. It's a pre-order and it's not they're call. If you get any grief call your credit card company or bank. Simple enough.
As for them being oblivious, they must not pay attention to any other soundtrack release or any other limited releases for that matter; since this is far from the first time this has happened. Must not be that into record collecting(ha). Seems kinda moronic to think there will not be much demand for a 200 count only record of a high demand soundtrack with a first time method of pressing. Again, for them to not expect this says a lot about who's running Waxwork.

[RyanPlugs]

Definitely. I think I just got my hopes up with this, but I don't blame Waxwork for even a second. They've become an extremely popular label, thus ensuring they stick around to give us a few more releases, so I can only be happy for them. I'm sure every record label hopes to break the internet someday