[NathanLurker]

What can I say ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Some people haven't seen Star Wars, some people haven't seen Manhunter. To be honest, I haven't dug deep into Michael Mann's body of work, I saw Thief for the first time last year. But mostly, it's probably that Anthony Hopkins took the spotlight in the role of Hannibal Lecter and Manhunter wasn't much discussed amongst my friends when I grew up. I don't think it payed on TV too much either. I wasn't aware that Manhunter even existed until a few years ago.

[Mateo Sanboval]

What can I say ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Some people haven't seen Star Wars, some people haven't seen Manhunter. To be honest, I haven't dug deep into Michael Mann's body of work, I saw Thief for the first time last year. But mostly, it's probably that Anthony Hopkins took the spotlight in the role of Hannibal Lecter and Manhunter wasn't much discussed amongst my friends when I grew up. I don't think it payed on TV too much either. I wasn't aware that Manhunter even existed until a few years ago.

No judgement, baby. Just surprise. We all have 'em. You'll enjoy it heartily, I'd wager. And, dare I say, Bryan Cox is a superior Lecter. Far less scenery chewing in his portrayal. He's hard effing boiled.

[static14]

@Mateo Lecktor you mean. ;)

[Mateo Sanboval]

@Mateo Lecktor you mean. ;)

Ha! Oh yeah. I forgot Manhunter wasn't canon.

[Hatter313]

So I hated manhunter for YEARS, couldn’t get what was so special about it, tried in high school a few times, tried again in college. I just couldn’t deal with the style, and I was so stuck on Hopkins as lecter that I just couldn’t let this movie in.

Fast forward to a few years ago, I decide to give it another whirl. Well obviously whatever was blocking me from appreciating it in my younger and less evolved days was gone, here was my mental exchange...

“Eh, I guess I’ll try this again and see what the hype is about”

Ten minutes in

“What the hell was wrong with me, this is god damned brilliant”

Twenty minutes in

“Seriously, what was wrong with me, what’s changed, how have I never realized this before”

After the film is over

“Top ten thrillers ever made, I’ve been an idiot for too long”

[Mateo Sanboval]

So I hated manhunter for YEARS, couldn’t get what was so special about it, tried in high school a few times, tried again in college. I just couldn’t deal with the style, and I was so stuck on Hopkins as lecter that I just couldn’t let this movie in.

Fast forward to a few years ago, I decide to give it another whirl. Well obviously whatever was blocking me from appreciating it in my younger and less evolved days was gone, here was my mental exchange...

“Eh, I guess I’ll try this again and see what the hype is about”

Ten minutes in

“What the hell was wrong with me, this is god damned brilliant”

Twenty minutes in

“Seriously, what was wrong with me, what’s changed, how have I never realized this before”

After the film is over

“Top ten thrillers ever made, I’ve been an idiot for too long”

That's awesome. This sort of thing happens to me with film, music, and sometimes literature, more than I'd care to admit.

[ScoJo]

Similar thing happened to me with the Phantom Menace.

Cheap gag aside- I remember actively hating TP:Fire Walk With Me, ranting at friends as we left the cinema back in '92. They all really dug it.

To this day, I have no idea what madness had descended upon me that night. But it was instructive later on when I finally got to grips with how my first reactions to art are very much about where I'm at when it hits.

This is my confession.

[Hatter313]

I'm still there with Mulholland Drive, i don't know what all the fuss is about, i find it one of his weaker films. not Inland Empire weak, but i prefer Lost Highway by an order of magnitude

[ScoJo]

I'm still there with Mulholland Drive, i don't know what all the fuss is about, i find it one of his weaker films. not Inland Empire weak, but i prefer Lost Highway by an order of magnitude

When all's said and done...Lost Highway is a masterpiece in every way, and I'd probably have to go along with you on the above.

(I have to confess a genuine issue with Inland, and it's the same troubling prob I have with some other 'great' filmmaker's later work. When Lynch bailed on 35mm and sang the praises of shooting himself with consumer video, he spoke a lot about how cumbersome and slow shooting on film was. But in all the interviews I saw, I never once heard him nod towards his great cinematographers who helped shape his cinema in all those classic movies- Fred Elmes, Peter Deming, Freddie Francis etc. Real artists who made a serious contribution to his art. And that rankled a bit. I know DL is an artist, and it makes total sense that he would embrace new shooting tech that would allow him full control of the images....but it felt wrong all the same. And I've seen a similar attitude in Fincher, Von Trier, Mike Figgis and others. It's definitely a Thing.)

Ultimately, with Inland, I'll take a Lynch movie over no Lynch movie. But damn, did I miss that rich, beautiful/terrifying aesthetic of his celluloid works. It felt something like Rene Magritte suddenly starting to use Microsoft Paint, or The Velvet Underground doing an LP using Garage Band. The artistry is still there, but you realise what a big part their aesthetic and chosen forms play in the realisation of that genius.

[Mateo Sanboval]

I'm still there with Mulholland Drive, i don't know what all the fuss is about, i find it one of his weaker films. not Inland Empire weak, but i prefer Lost Highway by an order of magnitude

When all's said and done...Lost Highway is a masterpiece in every way, and I'd probably have to go along with you on the above.

(I have to confess a genuine issue with Inland, and it's the same troubling prob I have with some other 'great' filmmaker's later work. When Lynch bailed on 35mm and sang the praises of shooting himself with consumer video, he spoke a lot about how cumbersome and slow shooting on film was. But in all the interviews I saw, I never once heard him nod towards his great cinematographers who helped shape his cinema in all those classic movies- Fred Elmes, Peter Deming, Freddie Francis etc. Real artists who made a serious contribution to his art. And that rankled a bit. I know DL is an artist, and it makes total sense that he would embrace new shooting tech that would allow him full control of the images....but it felt wrong all the same. And I've seen a similar attitude in Fincher, Von Trier, Mike Figgis and others. It's definitely a Thing.)

Ultimately, with Inland, I'll take a Lynch movie over no Lynch movie. But damn, did I miss that rich, beautiful/terrifying aesthetic of his celluloid works. It felt something like Rene Magritte suddenly starting to use Microsoft Paint, or The Velvet Underground doing an LP using Garage Band. The artistry is still there, but you realise what a big part their aesthetic and chosen forms play in the realisation of that genius.

Plus it stinks.

But seriously, that's truly the sole thing that held me back on TP:TR (which I loved). It was just so brutally digital. Such a 90s DIY aesthetic. I really struggle with that in works of...er...film. I ultimately acclimated and enjoyed what was a fine, fine show, but I still don't like that look. No, not the look. The feel. I don't like the feel of digital.

[skeletonbutt]

me neither. i watch so many old movies that when i watch something new, it looks like it was shot on an iphone. everyone says how television has become more cinematic--which is true to a degree, thanks to movie stars transitioning to television, bigger budgets for certain shows, and the aspect ratio of HDTV--but i think what has happened is that because of digital, now all the movies look like tv shows.

[Dollarhyde]

Just a heads up for UK folk manhunter is up at transmission, just copped a copy along with a a japanese press of solid state survivor :P
Manhunter is a classic.enjoy! those who have not seen it yet.

Surprisingly according to this interview critics weren't happy with the style and music. Go figure :)
https://youtu.be/awrdXN6Eboo

Also, saw this on twitter, whoever made this montage thankyou! An awesome teaser for the movie, and OST. It truly got me hyped.
https://youtu.be/foFw7djyELc

[Hatter313]

Yo this mug is awesome

[Bezulsqy]

Yo this mug is awesome

I agree. But what does that image portray?

[Mateo Sanboval]

Are the anointed permitted to share grail portraits with the non-believers?

[Bezulsqy]

Are the anointed permitted to share grail portraits with the non-believers?

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bl6bVBWhLhf ... _copy_link

[lazyben]

I would also like to know what on earth the image on the mug is supposed to be as it arrived and I'm baffled.

[Mateo Sanboval]

I would also like to know what on earth the image on the mug is supposed to be as it arrived and I'm baffled.

.

[maxlevel]

Burbs teaser on WW instagram

[milliondollars]

is this coming today?

[Mateo Sanboval]

is this coming today?

Millie, I don't know for certain, but I highly doubt it. They've been teasing releases, plural, next week. My guess is that they won't drop a surprise score on us today.

[milliondollars]

so excited! can't wait for it...

[inksb]

The licensing for Argento soundtracks seems to be available to every one....

I'm so confused

https://twitter.com/waxworkrecords/stat ... 0269850624

Inferno
Phenomena
Profondo Rosso

Friday

— Profondo Rosso receives its first-ever vinyl release and comes pressed on 180-gram 3xLP “Bloodied Doll” colored vinyl with Goblin’s expanded and complete original score, artwork by Italian Illustration Collective MALLEUS, and triple gatefold packaging.
— Inferno also receives its first-ever vinyl release and comes pressed on 180-gram 2xLP “Mater Tenebrarum” colored vinyl (Red and Pink Swirl Vinyl with Gold Splatter on disc one; Opaque Blue and Translucent Blue Swirl Vinyl with Gold Splatter on disc two) with Keith Emerson’s expanded and complete original score, artwork by Italian Illustration Collective MALLEUS, and deluxe packaging.

— Phenomena comes pressed on 180-gram 2xLP (“Insects and Earth” Blue and Green Swirl with Gold Splatter on disc one; “Telekinesis” Opaque Orange and Translucent Orange Swirl with Green Splatter on disc two) with Goblin’s expanded and complete original score, artwork by Killian Eng, an 11″x11″ art print, and a heavy, old-style gatefold jacket with film laminate gloss coating.

I'm not sure why Waxworks continues to claim "first time on vinyl" on releases that have had vinyl releases in the past. They need a better copy writer. Or just stop making false claims.

[Mateo Sanboval]

Shots fired.

[milliondollars]

ooof! crazy nice they look...

i would say first time on vinyl should mean like first time they release the complete cues.